Ramachandra Guha and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

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Ramachandra Guha represents the typical Indian intellectual: brilliant, totally westernized – and who looks down on anything Hindu – because he has inherited from the British colonization a gigantic inferiority complex about his own culture and spirituality. And like many of his brothers and sisters of India’s intelligentsia, he feels nowhere better than in the West. This can be gathered from his Oslo diary published in the Outlook magazine of 20th October, where he says, and I quote : “…After two weeks in Oslo, my hosts send me off to Svalbard, deep into the Arctic Circle … I spend four enchanting days in and around the little town of Longybein, located at 78° N. I have the privilege of sampling the northernmost bar, the northernmost cafe, the northernmost supermarket, and the northernmost souvenir store in the world “… Then he adds – and this shows that this Macaulayan fixation is transmitted since many generations from father to children: “The person most envious of my trip is my daughter, who has read evocative descriptions of Svalbard in the novels of Philip Pullman”.  Wow: I am a born Frenchman, brought up in some of the best European schools, I vaguely known of Philipp Pullman (do you?), but have never heard of that he wrote about the archipelago of Svalbard” (have you?).

Once he has proved his credentials of a connoisseur of western literature and lover of western atmospheres, Guha, because he is in Norway, home of the Nobel Peace Prize, chooses to attack Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, the founder of the Art of Living movement, who has been the most nominated Indian in the last three years: “After my talk, a lady comes up and introduces herself as a doctor, and an advisor to the Peace Institute. The names I had mentioned were all very good, she said, but surely it was time that the peace prize went to an Indian? She mentions the name of a fellow townsman of mine (Sri Sri Ravi Shankar), a man who has grown long hair, given himself four fancy initials (HH/SS), and whose name is also that of a very great exponent of the sitar”. And of course, Guha tells her gleefully: “I suggested to the doctor that if not giving Gandhi the prize was a scandal, awarding it to my fellow townsman would be an even bigger scandal”. How typical of these Indian intellectuals, who are always spitting on their own culture, specially if it is Hindu-related.

Yet, there is no doubt that Guruji, as he is known to his followers, qualifies for the NPP – in fact he does tenfold time the work of a Mother Teresa or a R.K Pachauri: he not only performs charity work in many of India’s villages, he also promotes pesticide and fertilizer free farming, takes orphans from Kashmir or the North-East in his ashram, and his volunteers do relief work, both at the physical and psychological level, whether in Bihar during the floods, in  Iraq or in the US during the recent cyclone. Sri Sri is also trying to revive single handed, the ancient Vedic tradition by training young priests in a Gurukkul which blends ancient knowledge, with modern thought, while promoting Ayurveda as the medicine of the 21st century. He is attempting as well to mediate in many conflicts, in Kashmir, Sri Lanka, or between the Christians and Hindus. And lastly he has revived and modernized the ancient science of pranayama.

Of course, Guha is an unabashed admirer of the Norwegian Peace Committee: “The Nobel Peace Prize is itself a splendid example of Norwegian internationalism, in keeping with the country’s ethos of generous aid to poorer countries, not to mention its efforts to resolve ethnic conflicts around the world”. But not everybody in Europe would agree with him : Norwegians have sometimes the reputation of being staunch, left-leaning Protestants, who often have a condescending view of Asia. Thus, when they award prizes, they are necessarily influenced by a Christian vision of the world and an idealistic left-leaning sympathy. For, as most Europeans, they have been brought-up in the belief that democracy and philosophy started with Greece and that a Humane civilization, began with Jesus Christ. And of course, they have a covert – or at  best unconscious – suspicion, if not of India, at least of Hindus, who for them remain the heathen, the pagans which the missionaries of yesteryears, and unfortunately those of today too, have created in the minds of many westerners.

They can only agree with Mr Guha: how can they then, give their Peace Prize to a Hindu?

François Gautier

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20 responses to “Ramachandra Guha and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

  1. haha… Well i was recently wonder y not Guruji For peace award! And now i know the answer!! 🙂

    These things will never stop! Like Guruji says praising a Great man doesnt affect him. But praising a fool makes some impact!

    Jai Gurudev!

  2. “Sri Sri is also trying to revive single handed, the ancient Vedic tradition by training young priests in a Gurukkul which blends ancient knowledge, with modern thought, while promoting Ayurveda as the medicine of the 21st century. He is attempting as well to mediate in many conflicts, in Kashmir, Sri Lanka, or between the Christians and Hindus. And lastly he has revived and modernized the ancient science of pranayama”

    And that qualifies someone for the Nobel Peace Prize how?

  3. pseudosecularism

    Replying to Aditya.. Why not ? what qualifies someone for a NPP ? and how come your intellect not think ” he not only performs charity work in many of India’s villages, he also promotes pesticide and fertilizer free farming, takes orphans from Kashmir or the North-East in his ashram, and his volunteers do relief work, both at the physical and psychological level, whether in Bihar during the floods, in Iraq or in the US during the recent cyclone.” would qualify him for that ?

  4. Guha is a wannabe westerner.. wonder how such ppl end up becoming historians, without being proud of their own history !
    And Wonder how our great Govt would react to his ‘giving the peace prize to gandhi was a scandal’ statement..
    may be they’ll blame it on the saffron terror, as they are doing it with all other such scandals !

  5. @ Aditya.

    wondering.. why did you quote just a part of the blog, to ask your Question ?

    may be because the other part had the answer to it ?

    for your convenience, i shall post it here:
    “in fact he does tenfold time the work of a Mother Teresa or a R.K Pachauri: he not only performs charity work in many of India’s villages, he also promotes pesticide and fertilizer free farming, takes orphans from Kashmir or the North-East in his ashram, and his volunteers do relief work, both at the physical and psychological level, whether in Bihar during the floods, in Iraq or in the US during the recent cyclone.”

  6. Francois another one from your Hindutva gang. I guess you also need to watch Love guru.

    Muthappa Says:

    21 October 2008 at 12:01 am
    HH/SS is a revered man in USA. A movie has been made on his life achievements . I strongly recommend that you watch this movie before posting derogatory comments. Bye the way, the name of the movie is ‘LOVE GURU’ and is available in all video stores

    If anyone deserves Nobel Prize, it is HH/SS for his accomplishments. Guha has always has negative bias towards Indians, Though himself is one of them. Rumors are that he has converted to Christianity, though he has publicly acknowledged it or denied it

  7. Doddi Buddi Says in churumuri:

    20 October 2008 at 11:38 am
    I don’t why this ‘Cave’ is throwing stones at the ‘Arty’ Fraud! Going by the past Nobel peace winners, the living Art deserves a Nobel. Again by the same logic our own ex PM Devegowda deserves a Nobel. What to do Nobel baddethaavu innu polticks ge Nobel kodtha yilla!

  8. Dear Bhaiya/Didi,

    Jai Gurudev.

    Given below are certain plans coming through me to enhance the Food Security of India through the efforts of entrepreneurs devoted to Gurudev (HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar).

    You are requested to kindly give your comments/suggestions on these plans; whether you would like to get involved in this enterprise; and also the widest publicity to these plans please.

    INTRODUCTION

    These plans are regarding an enterprise aiming to enhance the food security of India by leveraging the fertile land in the plains of North Bihar – the most fertile land in the world. The ‘Consortium of Women Entrepreneurs of India” (CWEI) has expressed its interest in these plans under their umbrella; but then this project/enterprise will be exclusively launched by them; and the CWEI would get all the CREDIT. I feel that the CREDIT should go where it is due – to Gurudev (HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar) – because it was only after I did the Basic Course of the ‘Art of Living’ in my posting in Jabalpur (in Apr 2002) that my thoughts were seriously taken in this direction. And so, these plans are proposed to be executed with the help and involvement of a group of entrepreneurs devoted to Gurudev.

    I am Arun Kumar Jha, a 37 yr old serving officer of the Indian Army. I can retire from my service with Pension earliest by 30 June 2012, and the enterprise could start earliest by 13 May 2013 (Gurudev willing). Entrepreneurs (in India and across the world) devoted to Gurudev and interested in getting involved in this project/enterprise are requested to contact me at bpfp@rediffmail.com before 13 May 2010 (13 May being the Birth date of Gurudev).

    The following script has been prepared on the assumption that minimum FIVE (maximum Seven) entrepreneurs devoted to Gurudev interested in this project/enterprise would be available for this project, and that it will not be pursued through the CWEI.

    DETAILS OF THE PLANS

    • The enterprise would carry out the Packaging and Marketing of Processed Food Products (prepared in North Bihar) over Internet from its HQ located in Chandigarh or Bangalore or in some other suitable city in India.
    • In the final stage, Food Parks of the enterprise (in North Bihar) would provide packaging and marketing facilities to Registered and Licensed Food Processing Units (FPUs) of the locals in the 24 districts of North Bihar.
    • That is, the enterprise would: –

    (a) Provide assistance to interested locals in North Bihar in the required Govt procedures concerning the registration and licensing of their FPUs.
    (b) Provide financial assistance to interested locals in North Bihar (if required) for raising their FPUs on researched Legal terms after the necessary background checks.
    (c) Suggest possible products to the FPUs, and their ideal methods of preparation.
    (d) Package the products of the FPUs (attractively) in the various Food Parks of the enterprise (in the presence of the representatives of the FPUs).
    (e) The Food Parks (BPFPs – Babu Pali Food Parks) of the enterprise would handle the Storage of the products of the FPUs, and their onward supply to destinations given by the HQ (over Internet).
    (f) The enterprise would carry out the packaging and marketing (sale) of the products of the (registered and licensed) FPUs – of the locals in North Bihar – FOR DECIDED PROFIT PERCENTAGES; all activity being computerised.
    (g) The confidence of the locals in North Bihar towards entrepreneurship (that is starting their own enterprises) would be raised by conducting Nav Chetna Shivirs by the Bihar chapter of the AOL.
    (h) Attention of the locals in North Bihar would be taken towards agriculture related entrepreneurship and they would be encouraged to produce items like Sattu, Daliya, Cornflakes, Chips and Sauces of all types, Soft Drinks including Fruit Juices and other products (like of ‘Makhana’; ‘Singhada’, etc).
    (i) The BPFPs in North Bihar would be raised in identified, flood free areas revealed through Satellite photo analysis and study of the history of identified areas on the ground.

    THE FUNDS

    • Funds of around $ 10 Million to $ 50 Million (Rs 450 Crore to Rs 2500 Crore or more) are eventually anticipated for this enterprise.
    • This large amount of funds essential for the enterprise would be procured from Venture Capital (VC) after operating a profit-making FPU in Madhubani district of North Bihar over three yrs.
    • I, Arun Kumar Jha (presently 37 yrs of age), have physically visited the offices of many VC firms in Mumbai and Pune and have gained considerable insight into their functioning and requirements. I realise that any amount of funds – for the proper plans – can be procured from VCs in these times. I can confidently claim that I can procure the funds (of the manageable amount) for this enterprise after physically operating a profit-making FPU headquartered in my house in Madhubani city in North Bihar.
    • After the Decision-Making Board has been formed; I, Arun Kumar Jha (then 41 yrs), would operate the first FPU of the enterprise from my house in Madhubani city in North Bihar. The Marketing of the products of this FPU would be coordinated over Internet. The possible product of the first FPU of the BPFP Enterprises will be evolved by that time.

    THE ELEMENT OF FAITH

    Though many imponderables are possible with me till the time this enterprise begins (13 May 2013) it is being assumed that NATURE (Fate, Destiny) WILL ALSO COOPERATE WITH THE ENTERPRISE SINCE THE INTENTION WILL BE NOBLE. I am convinced that through me (and these plans), the Divine Power seeks to address the Food Security situation of India.

    MY DETAILS

    I am Arun Kumar Jha, 37 yrs; presently a serving officer in the Indian Army. In the yr 1969, my father, completed his MA, PhD in Sanskrit and went to work in the Kaivalyadhama Yoga Research Institute in Lonavla in Pune district of Maharashtra from our village Babu Pali in Madhubani district of North Bihar. My father expired (unexpectedly) on 12 Aug 2008. He has left me, his only son, with a house in Talegaon Dabhade (near Pune) in Maharashtra; a house in Madhubani city in North Bihar; and a house in village Babu Pali in Madhubani district of North Bihar besides around 2 to 3 Acres of agricultural land and around 20 to 30 Mango trees in village Babu Pali. I was born in Lonavla in Jul 1971, and studied in Don Bosco, Lonavla and in Fergusson College, Pune before going for my Military training. Presently I am in the rank of Major in the Intelligence Corps of the Indian Army.

    I have survived a SEVERE Head Injury in Nov 1993 in which I was in Coma for 20 days because my skull was fractured in 23 places (in a Road Traffic Accident while undergoing a Military Course). I have presently lost most of the hair on my head and the scars (due to the Head Injury) are glaringly visible. Besides, in March 2007, my Shoulder was also dislocated following a seizure I had due to the Head Injury in Nov 1993. I have also undergone Lumbar Laminectomy L4 – L5 (removal of my L4 L5 vertebra) on 30 May 2007. All this notwithstanding, I feel fully physically FIT, and am confident that I am capable of executing these plans DESTINED to be routed through me.

    On my FAMILY front; I am married with a healthy wife (36 yrs from Madhubani district) and two healthy children (male, female both below 10 yrs) and Mother (61 yrs) to support. Viewed dispassionately, (with Drshta–Bhaav) all these facts concerning me would convince anybody – as they convince me – that I am THE PERSON who should be doing what I am doing!

    MY FUTURE (PERSONAL) PLANS

    I can retire from service with Pension earliest by 30 June 2012. After I retire, I plan to locate my Mother, Wife and Children in Patna city in Bihar leading their lives on my Pension and on my SALARY as an EMPLOYEE of this enterprise. I would restrict myself to half the salary of an officer of the Indian Army with my service at the time of my retirement from service.

    MY PREPARATIONS

    I am in contact with the office of the President of India (Rashtrapati Bhavan) in connection with these plans and hope to get posted to Patna or to some other place in Bihar from Jan 2009 to 30 June 2012 in order to gain experience specific to these plans. I also hope to undergo the capsule course for ex-servicemen of India in entrepreneurship at Symbiosis College, Pune before I retire from service (that is before 30 June 2012). I also hope to get (Premature) discharge from service by 30 June 2012.

    EVOLVING THE DECISION MAKING BOARD

    A group of five entrepreneurs dedicated to Gurudev would be required for the first FPU of the planned enterprise in Madhubani city in North Bihar. It is hoped that this enterprise might start by 13 May 2013; and it will; if desired by Gurudev (and if the other conditions are also supportive).

    Gurudev favours Seva activity in Bihar by people originally from the area. I, meeting the criteria (born and brought up outside my village in North Bihar but still having my roots – relatives, house and property in the village as well as in Madhubani city nearby) want to utilise my experience (of 20 yrs of active Military service) to translate the above thoughts (plans) into action by 13 May 2013.

    The aim of this enterprise would be to enhance the food security of India by leveraging the fertile land in THE PLAINS OF NORTH BIHAR, THE MOST FERTILE LAND ON PLANET EARTH. These plans have evolved through me, (‘Major’ Arun Kumar Jha) over the (more than) six yrs since I came in contact with Gurudev (in Apr 2002, in my posting in Jabalpur, MP). I KNOW that this project is DESTINED to be a SEVA PROJECT by a group of entrepreneurs devoted to Gurudev – with me as the Chief Systems Officer. The ‘Charter of Duties’ of the Decision Making Body of the enterprise is being prepared, and will be sent to the entrepreneurs devoted to Gurudev and interested in getting involved in contacting me.

    Entrepreneurs from India and across the world; devoted to Gurudev and who would like to get INVOLVED in these plans (essentially a seva project envisaging an enterprise thriving on encouraging enterprises in the FERTILE North Bihar in the Agricultural sector) are requested to contact me at bpfp@rediffmail.com at the earliest (but before 13 May 2010).

  9. Regarding the noble prize, Sri Sri Ravishankar is a great soul and fully deserving. If Mr. Guha thinks it would be a scandal, or bigger scandal than not giving to Mahatma Gandhi, then I can only say that his brain happens to be disproportionately developed with a tedency towards unwanted comparisons between people living in different periods and times.

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  11. Dedra Federgreen

    Such a useful blogwow !!!!

  12. hello ppl who are in art of living y are u ppl asking that stupid fellow to involve in art of living projects…. these idots dont know other than taking about ppl like sri sri .. they try to gain some name some how or some other how …

    kelasavilda kumbara makla tika kerdanathe hange … e huch mudne maklige ade kelasa tale odadre yerade akshara baralla mundev taleli gyanigal thara mathadthare gube mundevu

  13. Guha is obviously a dumbo. What is troubling is the while the French exported FG we exported Guha.
    When will we be able to export our best. At least not till JNU is fed on Indian Tax payers money and we restrict ourselves to just a handfull of IITs and AIIMs and our domestic businesses are not allowed a better atmosphere.

  14. Check out
    http://artoflivingfree.blogspot.com/
    to know all abour ravi ravi. He deserves a nobel for the inside underwear and outside underwear innovation. Vatsyayana missed it out.

  15. Jai Gurudev.

    I find that I had given my response in this forum in the year 2008 too (regarding my commitment to enhance the Food Security of India thru the fertile plains of (North) Bihar. Presently, the grace of His Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has enabled my commitment in this direction to continue. I have, therefore, arranged my Posting to Danapur near Patna; the capital of Bihar state in India. Broadly, the plans have evolved to a ‘dream’ of a Project to be carried out in the fertile plains of (North) Bihar. The members of the ‘Core Team’ of this project would all be linked with the AOL; and the controls of this Project would be with this ‘Core Team’. I am in contact with some Chartered Accountants in Patna regarding further polishing required in these plans.

    Jai Gurudev.

  16. See, all this is simply HAPPENING; as Guruji says. The present situation in connection with these plans coming thru me by the grace of Guruji is that the ‘Indian Angels Network’ has expressed its interest in studying the plans coming thru me. They could even, possibly, fund these plans to reach their DESTINED end…
    As Guruji also says; people like Guha ji deserve only to be ignored…

    Jai Gurudev.

  17. I find that this incisive article is not getting many comments/responses. I am also commenting on this subject simply because the CHRONOLOGY of my posts would be easily visible on this site.

    Presently; the year 2011 has begun. I am in contact with certain people from the NFIA (National Federation of Indian Americans); which is a group of NRIs who lobby for India in America; and are interested in funding development projects in India.

    I fully attribute my this persistence in this direction (Mr. Guha – you can see yourself, my Post on this very subject on Nov 21 2008 on this very page above) to my diligently studying the teachings of Gurudev – HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Rest, everything remains in the hands of the Divine (HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar). As Gurudev Himself says; NOTHING MATTERS BUT A PURE HEART.

  18. • I, Retired Major Arun Kumar Jha, 43 yrs; am (again) posting my Comment (Reply) on this Blog in October, 2014. Presently, I have retired from my Military service, and am the Secretary (CEO) of the Jai Jawan Jai Kisan Agriculture Society (Website: jjjkas.in).
    • I have prepared certain plans – rather; certain plans have evolved thru me by Divine Grace (the grace of HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar) – to raise a Non Governmental Organisation of ex-servicemen of the Indian Army in Bihar state in India with the Mission of raising the agricultural production (Food Security situation) of India thru the fertile plains of its Bihar state.
    • In the opinion of specialists and experts in the field of the Food Security situation of India; a massive increase in the number of smallholder agribusinesses in the fertile plains of Bihar state would result in significantly enhancing the agricultural production of India – mainly by reducing the WASTAGES of the crops grown in the area; and also by raising the amount of agricultural products grown in the state – spanning more than 90,000 SQ Km.
    • The Jai Jawan Jai Kisan Agriculture Society (Website: jjjkas.in) would focus on ensuring an increase in the number of all types of agribusinesses in the fertile plains of Bihar state in India. The Society would support all types of registered agribusinesses in the entire Bihar state (spanning more than 90,000 SQ Km). It has also been structured to remain in existence for all Time (Decades, Centuries and Millenniums); sustained on the strength of its VISIBLE benefits of raising the agricultural production (Food Security situation) of India through the Fertile Plains of Bihar state.
    • Guruji (HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar) says that simply have the FAITH; the FUNDS will certainly follow. So, detailed plans have been prepared on the ASSUMPTION (FAITH) that a sum of around Rs 10 Crore to 25 Crore (USD 2 Million to 5 Million) would be available to the Society for its First Stage.
    • This Society (NGO) – operated on suitably modified Military (Honest and Accountable) systems and means of management – would be operated through THREE (03) Departments (in various locations in Bihar state) over a period of 03 years each; by ex-servicemen of the Indian Army; all below 65 years of age.
    • From the HR (Human Resource) angle; the Society would comprise of TWO Categories of ex-servicemen of the Indian Army; ‘Permanent’ and ‘Temporary’. All ‘Permanent’ staff of the Society would be retired JCOs (Junior Commissioned Officers) of the Indian Army below 65 years of age.
    • The ‘Temporary’ staff of the Society would be ex-servicemen of the Indian Army from various states in India (from minimum four different states in a Dept) including from Bihar state.
    • The ‘Temporary’ staff of a Dept would be changed (Freshened) after every five (05) years; or as convenient for the Society.
    • The ‘Permanent’ staff of the Society would be changed (Freshened) after every ten (10 years); or on reaching 65 years of age.
    • All staff of the Society would be given ‘Heavy’ Performance – Linked Honorariums (payments); and suitably modified Military rules would be applicable on all staff of the Society.
    • The TASKS of all Depts have been researched; and detailed expense calculations on account of the Honorariums, the Administrative Expenses in all Depts, the Working Capital of all Depts and Reserves have been given in the web page of the Society (jjjkas.in).
    • The only change made; is that the Overall Reserves with the Society have been increased by Rs 100 Lakh (INR 10 Million).
    • Presently; I am participating in certain Business Plan Competitions in India to procure the initial amount of funds planned upon (Rs 10 Crore to 25 Crore – or INR 100 Million to 250 Million); and I have the Faith that this amount will EASILY become available for these plans.
    Mr. Ramchandra Guha; I hope you (chance to) read this Latest Comment of mine; and pray to Lord Krishna to enable these plans to materialise. Kindly realise that you too were simply an INSTRUMENT of the Divine (like me); for these plans to materialise.

  19. Dear Mr. Ramchandra Guha,

    1. I have presently retired from my Military service in the Indian Army and raised a (Private Limited) Company HQ in Patna in Bihar state in India.
    2. The name of this Company is Global Poverty Management Private Limited (www.globalpoverty.in); and I am presently located in Patna in Bihar state in India.
    3. This Company plans to raise the profitability of farmers practicing Organic farming in Bihar state spanning 94,163 SQ Km.
    4. Guruji (HH Sri Sri Ravi Shankar) says that “HAVE FAITH IN THE INFINITE ORGANISING POWER OF THE DIVINE. FAITH IS GIVING MIRACLES A CHANCE TO HAPPEN. FAITH IS GIVING THE DIVINE A CHANCE TO ACT.”
    5. The plans have been prepared for minimum Rs 6 Crore (USD 1 Million @ 1 USD = 60 INR).
    6. You are a well-known personality; and you might be in contact with influential people (having access to this large amount of funds).
    7. You are requested to kindly bring these plans to the attention of suitable people who could INVEST this amount into this Company. Full ACCOUNTABILITY and HONEST UTILISATION of the funds would be GUARANTEED.

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